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[edit]- Nominator(s): Tone 14:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Kazakhstan has 6 WHS and 13 sites on the tentative list. Standard style. It seems that now the standard minimum length is 8 items in total, and I am still keeping personal limit to at least 3 sites on the main list. Tone 14:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "TThree sites are transnational" - typo
- "Even if the mausoleum remains partially unfinished," => "Although the mausoleum remains partially unfinished,"
- "Silk Road is an ancient network of trade routes" => "The Silk Road is an ancient network of trade routes"
- "started forming in the 2nd century BCE" - earlier you just used "BC"
- "represents different stages of history of Turkic peoples" => "represents different stages of the history of the Turkic peoples"
- "as and later the centre of the Kazakh khans ." - don't think that "as" should be there, also there's a random space before the full stop
- "The mosques are named after the local Sufi saints are popular pilgrimage sites" - this doesn't make sense. I think what you mean is "The mosques are named after the local Sufi saints and are popular pilgrimage sites"
- "The archaeological excavations of the tombs, kurgans, uncovered" => "The archaeological excavations of the tombs, called kurgans, uncovered"
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 15:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
This is the third nomination of this list. Please be informed that the list is extensive, and I have made every effort to address the issues raised in the previous nomination, including improvements in table formatting, an explanation of how state boundaries have changed and been renamed, and the inclusion of reliable references. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 15:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): SounderBruce 09:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
I have (almost) run out of Seattle sports season lists, so I have decided to start looking at my sports from a level up, at the league level. MLS is almost finished with its 29th season and has had a well-documented history; this list was completely redone in a manner similar to the WNBA seasons list I made earlier this year. I am very open to modifications, as the list was hashed out without much in the way of direction. SounderBruce 09:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- MPGuy2824
- "the league
grewreached 16 teams". -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC) - Consider moving the sub-phrase about the Supporters' Shield (in the first paragraph) to a separate sentence.
- Changed the semicolon to a full stop.
- The last sentence of para2 and the first sentence of para3 both start with "As of 2024". See if one of them can be reworded a bit.
- Eliminated from the latter.
- MLS Cup playoffs says that the top 9 teams from each conference go to the playoffs, while here it says top 8. Please check which is right and correct the other one.
- Fixed, it's nine.
- In the table, the Record column seems to be sorted based on winning%. See if it is possible mention this somewhere.
- Added a proper note.
- That's all that I got. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:43, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Thanks for the review. I have made all of the suggested changes. SounderBruce 02:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- I see a note for the points column, but not the Record column. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Fixed, it was in the wrong location. SounderBruce 22:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- I see a note for the points column, but not the Record column. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Thanks for the review. I have made all of the suggested changes. SounderBruce 02:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support promotion on prose and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 16:09, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Similar to other North American sports leagues, the champion is determined by the MLS Cup" - other leagues do not determine their champion via the MLS Cup so this may need rewording
- Reordered for clarity.
- "A separate trophy, the Supporters' Shield is awarded" => "A separate trophy, the Supporters' Shield, is awarded"
- Fixed.
- "As of 2024, 22 of the league's 29 teams play in a soccer-specific stadiums" - "a stadiums"?
- Fixed.
- "The single-season scoring record was set by Carlos Vela" - I'd be tempted to say "The current single-season scoring record was set by Carlos Vela", as Vela isn't the only player in league history to have set this record
- Fixed.
- in the notes you use both "goal difference" and "goal differential" for the same thing
- Fixed.
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Thanks for the review. I have made all of those suggested changes. SounderBruce 22:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Kline • talk • contribs 03:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
With my profound interest and supporting of the Buffalo Sabres, I'd though I would do my duty and make this a featured list. Unfortunately for my beloved Sabres, they have gone on a 13-year postseason drought, which leads to some interesting statistics and backlash. This is my first rodeo, but hopefully won't be my last. Cheers! Kline • talk • contribs 03:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Hey man im josh
[edit]This review is based off this version of the page.
Source review: Passed
- Reliable enough for the information being cited
- Consistent date formatting
- Consistent and proper reference formatting
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
- Spot checked that sources match what they are being cited for
Feedback:
- Your citation wikilinking style is unclear to me. Are you intending to only link the first time a source is mentioned?
- Not sure but it doesn't matter. Should be consistent now.
- Ref 1 – Link doesn't work, might need to be tweaked
- Done, changed url status to dead.
- Refs 1 and 19 – Ref 1 uses National Hockey League as the publisher, but ref 19 uses NFL.com as the website. Be consistent. National Hockey League might be best as the website in this case.
- Done.
- Refs 2 and 3 – Inconsistent formatting. Better to just use Hockey Reference as the website on both with no publisher listed
- Done.
- Ref 6 – The reference should be marked as subscription access, you can do with the |access=subscription parameter
- Done.
- Ref 8 – Is this the newest version of the record book that's available? NFL teams often have a pretty detailed media guide they release, and I can't find one for the Sabres, but I did find this for the Penguins as an example of what I'd personally look for if I was doing an NHL team seasons list.
- The most recent version was published in 2018 and then discontinued. Replaced.
- Ref 9 – Link to HockeyDB as a website instead of "The Internet Hockey Database" as the publisher
- Done.
- Refs 11, 13, and 20 – Need to be tagged as subscription access
- Done.
- Ref 14 – Link to Associated Press
- Done.
- Refs 14 and 17 – Is there a reason ESPN is listed as the publisher instead of website?
- Not that I am aware of, changed to website.
- Ref 16 – Link to Yahoo! News
- Done.
- Ref 16 – Link redirects when clicked, mark as dead or update link
- Done.
- Ref 16 – The archived link, which does work, shows an author named Ira Podell, add this, and Associated Press as the agency
- Done.
- Ref 17 – At the bottom of this source it says info from the AP was used in this report, not sure what to make of that personally, but felt I'd call it out so that we can ponder whether we should list AP as the agency or just let it be
- It'd be nice if they specified what information was used but it seems like ESPN was the main writer of the story so I would leave it personally.
- Ref 18 – Link to CNBC
- Done.
- Ref 19 – Add Tom Gulitti as the author
- Done.
- Ref 21 – Should be a note, not a reference
- Done.
- I'm not seeing the info on who the teams lost to in the playoffs
- As in a reference showing the Sabres' playoff history?
That's what I've got for now. Please ping me when the above issues have been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh, most concerns have been addressed. Kline • talk • contribs 17:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Made a couple tweaks to refs, support. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "won zero Stanley Cup titles" - this reads a little oddly to me. I would be tempted to say "and reached the Stanley Cup finals twice, losing both times"
- Done.
- "losing the finals in 6 games" => "losing the finals in six games"
- Done.
- "Over the next 10 seasons, the Sabres made a postseason appearance" - they made just one postseason appearance in those 10 seasons? Or do you mean they made one every season? If so, I would say "Over the next 10 seasons, the Sabres made a postseason appearance every year"
- Done.
- "lost the series to the New York Islanders in 5 games" => "lost the series to the New York Islanders in five games"
- Done.
- "For the first time since the 1973–74 season, the Sabres failed to qualify for the playoffs, missing the point cutoff by 4 points." - when was this?
- Added season which required a rewording of the sentence.
- "beginning an eight-year postseason appearance streak. Despite the postseason appearance streak" - somewhat repetitive. I would start the second sentence with simply "During this period"
- Done.
- "starting their most successful postseason appearance streak, lasting for five years. Compared to the previous eight-year postseason appearance streak" - again, this is quite repetitive. Suggest shortening the start of the second sentence to simply "Compared to previous streak"
- Done.
- "in every season minus the 1999–2000 season" => "in every season with the exception of the 1999–2000 season"
- Done.
- "The 1999 playoff run would be the last appearance in the Stanley Cup finals for the Sabres as of the 2023–24 season" => "The 1999 playoff run is the most recent appearance in the Stanley Cup finals for the Sabres as of the 2023–24 season"
- Done.
- "The Sabres would face the Dallas Stars in the 1999 Stanley Cup Finals," => "The Sabres faced the Dallas Stars in the 1999 Stanley Cup Finals,"
- Done.
- "a series that they would lose in six, albeit in dubious fashion" => "a series that they lost in six, albeit in dubious fashion"
- Done.
- "scored with his skate in the crease" - no idea what this means although it sounds painful. Is there an appropriate wikilink for "skate in the crease" or simply "crease", whichever is appropriate.....?
- Linked crease.
- "After returning from the 2004–05 lockout, the Sabres had made it back to the postseason" => "After returning from the 2004–05 lockout, the Sabres made it back to the postseason"
- Done.
- "where they would lose to the Senators in five" => "where they lost to the Senators in five"
- Done.
- "The Sabres would win the Northeast division in the 2009–10 season and move onto the playoffs" => "The Sabres won the Northeast division in the 2009–10 season and moved onto the playoffs" (see WP:WOULDCHUCK for why it's very rarely necessary to say that something in the past "would" happen)
- Done.
- "The same fate would happen next year" => "The same fate would happen the following year" ("next year" is 2025)
- Done.
- "where they would make the playoffs and get eliminated in the first round" => "when they made the playoffs and got eliminated in the first round"
- Done.
- "this time by the Philadelphia Flyers in 7" => "this time by the Philadelphia Flyers in seven" (to be consistent with all other similar usages)
- Done.
- That's what I got on the prose. Table looks all good although I am not sure the "playoff results" column needs to be sortable because it sorts only on the first thing listed, so (for example) their two Stanley Cup final appearances sort nowhere near each other -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:49, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude; most concerns should be addressed, including the playoff results sort. Kline • talk • contribs 17:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Sgubaldo (talk) 18:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
After significantly reworking List of accolades received by Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse to ensure it was still FL-quality, I thought it appropriate to get the sequel's list promoted. Follows the usual style. Sgubaldo (talk) 18:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support: It is consistent with the Into the Spider-Verse FL in terms of overall elements, so great work on those! Chompy Ace 11:36, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Query
[edit]- "Shameik Moore (for "Gwen Stacy")" (Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards - Favorite Male Voice from an Animated Movie) - that isn't right surely? Moore didn't voice Stacy according to the lead
- same goes for "Hailee Steinfeld (for "Miles Morales")" for the same awards -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's not right; I'd accidentally swapped the two. Fixed now. @ChrisTheDude Sgubaldo (talk) 11:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 07:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Another New Zealand historic place list, and so soon!(Don't worry, I got clearance from Josh!) This one is quite a bit bigger than my others so far, clocking in at 63 sites. A bunch of these, however, are middens where there's not much info beyond their location. A lot of the Clutha District history deals with its 19th century gold rush, and since then it has basically remained a sleepy agricultural region. Hope you all enjoy! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 07:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "First occupied by the Māori, European sealers and whalers began" - the Europeans weren't first occupied by the Maori
- "These mines [plural] were used by around seventy different mining companies between its [singular] founding and its abandonment"
- "Initially planned to be built with wood in 1913, residents were angered" - the residents weren't planned to be built with wood
- "The newspaper ceased publication in 1941, and has been owned by the Lawrence Athenaeum and Mining Institute since 1951" - what has been owned by that group since 1951? The newspapers or the building?
- "and the First World War, as well as some from World War II " - I think it would be better to be consistent in the naming of the wars, so either "World War I, as well as some from World War II" or "the First World War, as well as some from the Second"
- " a fundraising program in the 1990s" - as I believe they favour British English in NZ, this should be "programme"
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Thank you very much! Corrected. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Another one of these New Zealand Heritage List nominations! This one's a bit bigger than the previous few, coming in at 30 entries. Tauranga is definitely one of the more obscure cities in New Zealand - it's a sleepy little town that seems to mainly attract retirees - but it has some interesting military and colonial history nevertheless! Thanks to all you reviewers :3 Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- Image caption end with a period.
- That'd be against MOS:CAPTION unless it's a full sentence. -G
- The majority of entries in the list are missing images. IMO these images should exist in thumbnails on the side of the list (similar to List of Seattle Sounders FC players)
- If a Wikimedian visits Tauranga and snaps some pics, most of these will get images. I want to leave the slots open for when/if that happens. - G
- Images that don't have alt text should have alt text
- Fixed, thank you for catching that. -G
Heritage New Zealand classification of sites on the New Zealand Heritage List / Rārangi Kōrero, in accordance with the Heritage New Zealand Pouhere Taonga Act 2014, distinguishes between Category 1 ("places of special or outstanding historical or cultural significance") and Category 2 ("places of historic or cultural significance").
- first clause in the sentence should be shortened or broken into multiple sentences.
- Done. - G
- Brindille1 (talk) 01:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Brindille1: Thank you for the review! Responded. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support Brindille1 (talk) 13:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Brindille1: Thank you for the review! Responded. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Home to large Māori settlements during the precolonial era, European presence began" - there's some grammatical disagreement here - "European presence" wasn't home to large Maori settlements. Suggest "European presence began in the early 1830s in the area, which had been home to large Māori settlements during the precolonial era, as traders began settling around the shores of Tauranga Harbour."
- "from 1908 to 1987, where it has since seen various business tenants" - "where" doesn't really work here. Suggest "from 1908 to 1987, and has since seen various business tenants"
- That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Reworded the first and implemented the latter! Thank you. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 15:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Trying this again. A few important things to note: (1) this list follows the format for all other NFL All-Time Rosters (see {{List of NFL players}} for the others). (2) These lists are quite large (this one is over 1,800 entries) and grows larger every season. To keep things manageable from an article size perspective and ease for updating, ancillary details like position are not included. These however can be found in other lists where those ancillary details are more important (i.e. List of Green Bay Packers first-round draft picks provides a person's college). (3) For somewhat of a precedent, Outline of lichens provides a recent FLC example of a list that is mostly just the mere listing of the list entries. I believe that list and this one meet the intent of WP:FLCR 3(a). I welcome any feedback and as always will work to address comments quickly. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
After countless lists of number ones, I thought I would try something different for my next FLC. I'd just been listening to the new 40th anniversary deluxe edition of the Pogues' debut album and decided to have a go at this one. I added a lead, images, and (I think) pretty much doubled the size of the list by adding all the songs that were not on the original versions of their seven studio albums. A couple of things I was not 100% certain about (and couldn't really find any guidance on) and am happy to change if people think I should:
- Many songs were released only on singles (this is a band whose entire recording career took place when music was actually released physically, kids ) but later added to re-issued versions of albums anything up to 20 years later. I showed the album for these as "none" as their first release was not on an album, but I can change that and show the album (maybe with "20XX re-issue" in brackets) if that would be better.
- Several dozen songs here were unreleased until they appeared in a 2008 box set. For all of these I showed the date as 2008 as that is when they were first released, but I can change that to the date they were recorded, although this might be inconsistent with others as (for example) all the tracks on an album released in January 1988 (as one of theirs was) were almost certainly not recorded in 1988.
Let me know your thoughts on the above and on anything else you think needs fixing. I've never worked on one of these lists before so there may be quite a lot that needs finessing...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
NØ
[edit]- The band seems to be currently active according to their article, so should the introductory sentence say "have recorded" instead of "recorded"?
- Changed. It was literally yesterday that the band announced that they will be touring again next year, prior to this it seemed that they would not continue following MacGowan's death -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- "which centred primarily on drinking culture and the seedier side of London life" - Is there a simpler term than seedier that might be easier for a general audience to understand? Although, personally I love the jargon, lol.
- Changed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- "If I Should Fall from Grace with God (1988) incorporated a wider of range of musical styles, including Turkish and Spanish influences on the tracks "Turkish Song of the Damned" and "Fiesta" respectively, and songs written by newer band members Philip Chevron and Terry Woods." - Just "wider range" should probably work. Also, there should probably be a comma before "respectively"
- Changed - the first one was just a typo -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- "After the 1996 album Pogue Mahone, which included versions of songs originally recorded by Ronnie Lane and Bob Dylan" - I would say "cover versions" instead of just versions
- Changed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- "The band also recorded songs not included on their seven studio albums, including many which appeared as the B-sides of singles." - "The band also recorded songs that did not appear on their seven studio albums, including many which appeared as the B-sides of singles." for minor repetition avoidance
- Changed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- "They contributed original songs to the soundtracks of the films Sid and Nancy and Straight to Hell" - maybe the years the films were released could be included in parenthesis
- Changed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great work as always! The table looks perfect to me.--NØ 15:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MaranoFan: - thanks for your review. All points addressed! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support--NØ 16:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Mattximus (talk) 16:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Let's keep it going. Here is one more list of municipalities with a standardized format that now includes 50 (!!) lists of municipalities all around the world. Inspired by these real encyclopedias with consistent formatting and high standard, the project is taking shape. I tried to incorporate changes from previous nominations but I'm sure I've missed some and there can always be improvements. Thanks for your reviews! Mattximus (talk) 16:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments from Steelkamp
[edit]- "The largest municipality by land area is Tlaquiltenango which spans 543.90 km2 (210.00 sq mi), and the smallest is Hueyapan with 19.20 km2 (7.41 sq mi)." I recommend commas be placed like so: "The largest municipality by land area is Tlaquiltenango, which spans 543.90 km2 (210.00 sq mi), and the smallest is Hueyapan, with 19.20 km2 (7.41 sq mi)."
- Done
- Cuautla in the lead should be linked.
- Done
- "responsible for providing all the public services for their constituents". Is it really true that all public services are provided by the municipality. The following sentences seem to say that the state and federal governments provide education, emergency fire and medical services, environmental protection and maintenance of monuments and historical landmarks. Could this be changed to ""responsible for providing public services for their constituents"?
- Done - this is much better wording, thanks!
- "On November 9, 2017, the state legislature approved the creation of four indigenous municipalities (Coatetelco, Xoxocotla, Hueyapan and Tetelcingo), effective on January 1, 2019. However, due to objections by authorities in Cuautla, it was decided on July 26, 2018 that Tetelcingo would not be included in the list of new municipalities." This should be reworded to say the most important part up front: that these are the newest municipalities in Morelos. Otherwise one wonders why four seemingly random municipalities are being mentioned.
- Done - this is a good suggestion, I think I reworded it correctly
- That's a good way to word it.
- The incorporation date for the three municipalities created on January 1, 2019 should be sourced in the table as well. The current source at the column heading only goes as far as 1995.
- Done
That's all. Steelkamp (talk) 06:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Steelkamp for an excellent review. No issues, all suggestions made. Mattximus (talk) 00:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Steelkamp (talk) 08:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Tetelcingo would not be included in the list of new municipalities" - this is slightly confusing as it sounds like the municipality was still created, it just wasn't included on some list somewhere. So was it in fact not created at all?
- Fixed wording.
- Photo captions don't need full stops as they are not sentences
- Fixed captions with better wording as well
- "the oldest date in which the municipality is referred to is included" => "the earliest year in which the municipality is referred to is listed" would read much better
- Fixed, agree that's much better wording.
- That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks ChrisTheDude! Excellent review, and I've made all changes, no issues. Mattximus (talk) 00:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments from OlifanofmrTenanant
[edit]I'll take a look but the first thing that jumps out is Hueyapan is linked twice in the final paragraph. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:12, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done
- Footnotes C,D, and H could very loosely be seen as unsourced, especially since the notes about name changes are sourced.
- Done
- The states of Mexico list is linked twice in the first paragraph
- Done
- It is also linked in the body as state capital. Could you explain the connection?
- Done - I just removed the link, I don't think one is needed here.
- All I found, ping me when needed Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much OlifanofmrTennant! All your concerns have been addressed, no issues! Mattximus (talk) 00:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Brindille1 (talk) 05:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm nominating this list for FL, continuing my streak of Major League Soccer-related lists. This one covers managers for the defunct Chivas USA, which had an unbelievable nine managers across ten seasons. This list follows the same format as List of New England Revolution seasons, with a written summary of the managerial history as well as the list of managers with results. Brindille1 (talk) 05:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "competed in Major League Soccer (MLS) from 2005 until it folded after the 2014 season" - this wording could be interpreted as meaning that Major League Soccer folded in 2014. Suggest rewording to "competed in Major League Soccer (MLS) from 2005 until 2014, after which the team folded"
- "Chivas USA introduced their introductory" - can you change one of these words so the language is less repetitive?
- "at a press-conference on September 23, 2004" - there is no hyphen in "press conference"
- "and with the team at a 1-8-1 record, " => "and, with the team at a 1-8-1 record, "
- can you clarify within the article what a "1-8-1 record" is? To me, as a European, it means one win, eight draws, and one defeat, but it appears that in America it means one win, one draw and eight defeats
- "he became team's sporting director" => "he became the team's sporting director"
- There's an issue with the ref template after "losing in the first round each time"
- "Before hiring their next coach, both Shawn Hunter (the chief executive) and Stephen Hamilton (the vice president of soccer operations) departed the club" - Hunter and Hamilton left the club but then hired its next coach? That doesn't make sense. I think the initial clause needs changing, as presumably the subject of that clause is the club.....
- "with the team in last in the Western Conference" => "with the team in last place in the Western Conference"
- "a lawsuit against the club alleging discrimination for not being Latino." => "a lawsuit against the club alleging that they were discriminated against for not being Latino."
- "Sanchez Sola not always followed" - as this is apparently a direct quote, can I just confirm that the statement contained this grammatical error?
- Wilmer Cabrera image caption needs a full stop.
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 05:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback @ChrisTheDude. I've fixed each of those points. Brindille1 (talk) 01:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]Apologies if I duplicate anything from ChrisTheDude above.
- There needs to be a comma after
Carson, California
Disastrous
in the heading seems a little too much editorializing. Just "Debut season"- All the records need to have en dashes (i.e. 1-8-1 should be 1–8–1) I would recommend {{Win-loss record}} actually
end of the season, he announced
comma isn't neededwithin a month, but was hired as the manager
comma isn't needednational team, and stepped down
comma isn't neededone season, and was fired
comma isn't neededfiled a lawsuit against the club alleging that they were for not being Latino.
they were what? "Fired"?as well as by Chivas USA."
quote mark goes before the periodto a 3-6-12 record, and on
comma isn't neededits last match, and it ceased operations the next day
-->its last match, ceasing operations the next day
Match results contain all league games as well as MLS playoff matches.
"as well as" should just be "and"- The use of {{Abbr}} for "Win%" isn't correct. I think you are shooitng for a footnote here, which can be done using {{sfn}} and {{Notelist}}
That's all I got Brindille1. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback, @Gonzo fan2007. I've addressed each of the items, except for "quote mark goes before the period"- the current text is correct based on my reading of MOS:QUOTEPUNCT Brindille1 (talk) 01:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Min968 (talk) 06:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
This article is about list of emperors of the Ming dynasty. I am nominating this for featured list status because I believe it meets all the FL criteria and it is an important part of the series of articles on the topic of the Ming dynasty that I am currently improving. Min968 (talk) 06:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Surely this should be a WP:Featured list candidate rather than a WP:Featured article candidate? TompaDompa (talk) 06:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I have fixed it. Min968 (talk) 08:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Toadspike
[edit]Staking out a spot here, if I haven't responded within a week please ping me. Toadspike [Talk] 19:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
In the late 1620s, a peasant uprising erupted in northern China
– link to Late Ming peasant rebellions.- Done. Min968 (talk) 03:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
A total of sixteen emperors ruled over China proper for 276 years. During their reign, China experienced a long period of economic growth and political stability.
Specify that this refers to the Ming dynasty. (Philosophical note: I believe paragraphs and most sentences in the lead should be able to stand on their own, especially since search engine previews tend to take them out of context, so I think making them technically correct is important.)- Fixed. Min968 (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
continued to rule over the south of the country
– I would prefer "continued to rule over southern China". The definition of country is very vague. It's okay that you use the phrase again later in the paragraph.- Fixed. Min968 (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
To defeat the rebels, the government troops in the north invited the Manchu-led Eight Banner armies of the Qing dynasty to come to the Central Plains. The Manchus then occupied northern China in the same year.
"the government troops in the north" – clarify. I think this is a summary of the Battle of Shanhai Pass that could be misleading. Wu Sangui, for better or worse, is seen as a rogue general. The current wording suggests that the Ming government somehow condoned his decision. The use of "invited" is also probably inaccurate, phrasing using "coerced" is probably better. "Eight Banner armies" could be shortened to "Eight Banners", though this is not obligatory. Northern China should be linked. I prefer "that same year" over "in the same year".- Fixed. Min968 (talk) 04:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
a similar complex in Nanjing
should link to Ming Palace.- Done. Min968 (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
according to the Hongwu Emperor's decision
is vague and begs the question "which decision?" I think there's a name for it, it's been a while since I've read about this period but he did set down some kind of constitution/code of conduct for future emperors. Maybe it's the Great Ming Code I'm thinking of.- Fixed. Min968 (talk) 04:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
the successor to the throne was always the eldest son of the emperor and empress, or his heir if he had none, followed by younger sons of the empress.
I'm not sure what you mean by "his heir if he had none". Could you clarify this, please? Does it mean that if the eldest son had a son and died, that grandson would be the successor? Also, something in this section should link to or be replaced with Taizi – probably the first use of "successor" or "heir".- Fixed. Min968 (talk) 04:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Toadspike I have removed some content from the article. In the near future, it may be included in another more suitable article or a new article specifically about the Ming emperors. Min968 (talk) 04:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
General point: The lead seems pretty long to me. Some of the content (e.g. "Court and family", "Burial traditions") seems much more suited for the main Emperor of China article or a new Ming emperors article. I don't mind much for now, but in the long run that would be the best move.
- Drive-by comment
- I suggest referring to the List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty for formatting, as it recently became and FL itself and is, to me, easier to understand than this list. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 00:27, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Min968, I second what SilverTiger12 said. The formatting should generally match previous FLs unless there is some need to be different. Seeing as List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty is a FL and looks really good, I would convert to that format. Please ping me when you have responded and made the changes, and I will do a full review. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Currently, I have made quite a few revisions not only based on the List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty but also of the Song dynasty and of the Han dynasty. Min968 (talk) 17:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Drive-by comment
[edit]The list currently lacks column and row scopes, which are necessary for accessibility. See PresN's standard comment here for some advice. Also pinging AirshipJungleman29 in case they're interested in looking this over, as they recently has a related successful nomination at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty/archive1 (though I suspect they may not be interested as this isn't Mongol Empire related). Hey man im josh (talk) 15:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'll have a look, although I'm also interested in why List of emperors of the Ming dynasty by length of reign is a separate article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29 In my opinion, cramming all of the information into one article will make it too long and confuse the reader about the main content. It may also dilute the information. Min968 (talk) 05:48, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Added. Min968 (talk) 05:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Older nominations
[edit]- Nominator(s): TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because following the successful promotions at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Football Academic All-America Team Members of the Year/archive2 in July and Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Women's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year/archive1 earlier today, I think this is a good candidate. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- MOS:ALLCAPS: all the reference titles need to be converted to title case
- Fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- MOS:ACRO1STUSE: all of the states should be written out in their first use; that said, you can utilize {{abbrlink}} to accomplish the same thing and save space
- {{abbrlink}} wouldn't do anything different than the piping you have brought to issue. I have unpiped the abbreviations.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:02, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
each have one Academic All-American of the Year for each division
"each" is not needed in this sentence- OK.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
and three of them have been recognized with this award a total of four times
unclear who "them" is referencing- Is Titans any clearer.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
That's all I got. Nice work TonyTheTiger! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): AA (talk) 12:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I have substantially expanded the article with prose, providing an overview of the history of Hampshire's use of different grounds, and I have reformatted the list so that it more closely matches other English county cricket grounds FLs. Any comments welcome! AA (talk) 12:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- The lead looks a little short, is there some more info that could be added? First ground, most used ground, etc?
- Done. I have added an extra couple of sentences to this effect. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Outground is redlinked, is it likely to ever be an article? If so, it should also be linked on the first use in the body
- Done. It is an article I have lined up for the future, there are several books and links which cover the subject. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Is there an image that could be added to the lead?
- Done. Have added an image of their current home venue. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- "after a lease was successfully acquired by James Fellowes" - could you clarify who he was?
- Done. Added that he was a cricketer (amongst other things, but cricketer seems the most relevant descriptor without going off on a tangent). AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- "which would last for 115–years" - there's no reason for a hyphen there
- Done. Have removed. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- "the Rose Bowl also played host to Test," (etc) - unless there has been some sort of ruling that it can never do so again, change to "has played host"
- Done. Have reworded. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- "which the transferred Bournemouth" => "which transferred Bournemouth"
- Done. Oops! Can tell I've been on nights! AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- "which was also serves as the home ground" - something's not right here
- Done. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- "but there for only two seasons before the Second World War." - think there's a word or two missing here
- Done. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Date columns in the table don't sort correctly
- Done. Now sorts correctly! AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Source for note 1?
- Done. Have added the scorecard which shows Dorset at the home side. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's what I got - nice work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:49, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. @ChrisTheDude: please find above my actioned comments. Cheers, AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support - great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- In the second sentence, Hampshire is a singular noun. So it should be "has", not "have"
- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
a number of
--> "various", "multiple", "many" or "14"- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
sports, in which a team
comma isn't needed- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
fourteen
should be "14" in the last sentence of the lead- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
James Fellowes;[6] thus began an association at the County Ground which would last for 115 years.
-->James Fellowes, which began an association at the County Ground that would last for 115 years.
- Done. Reads much better :) AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
home matches per season from 1899,
change "from" to "starting in"- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
in 1972 which transferred Bournemouth
change "which" to "that"- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
matches there to 1948
add "up" before "to"- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Any particular reason for the more formal "Second World War" and not World War II.
- Comment. I guess I'm just formal! Happy to change though. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Under the "Grounds" section, why is the text italicized? It is too long for a note. I would drop the italics.
- Done. Agreed. I have just italicized the "Note" sentence. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- In the table, I think the text needs to be centered. Left justified with numbers doesn't look good. If you feel so compelled, you can left justify the first two columns.
- Done. I have centre justified, how does it look now? AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the name column, I think you should split out the pictures. The text get's lost. Something like one of mine, List of Green Bay Packers presidents, I think would look good. The other option would be to at least bold the text.
- Done. I have bolded the text, less lost in the image and box background now... hopefully! AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Nice work AssociateAffiliate! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007:. Many thanks for your comments, please find above my responses :) AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Everything looks good! Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Cheers :) AA (talk) 17:46, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please note: I will be out of the UK from 19/11 to 24/11, so might not be able to respond during that time. AA (talk) 20:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): PresN 19:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Bats list #6 and mammal list #47: Myotinae. Now that we got the giant vespertilionine list out of the way, the rest of the family Vespertilionidae is easier: this subfamily is a third of the size, with only 3 genera to keep track of. Still just another 121 tiny bats, but a few of these guys have decided that when they swoop down to pluck bugs off of the water, they're okay with snagging a fish while they're at it. Also, in contrast to the angry little guy of the past list, this list has the Yuma myotis down at the bottom who's just done with it all and ready to go home. In any case, as always, this list reflects formatting discussions from prior lists as well as the scientific consensus on the family. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 19:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- I don't know if I missed this on previous lists but......"Members [plural] of this subfamily are called a myotine [singular]" - maybe "A member...."....?
- "neritic marine" - is there a link for this? I don't think it's a common/well-known term
- Guatemalan myotis - habitat is blank
- That's it - great work as ever! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Fixed all three, thanks! --PresN 22:17, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Gonzo_fan2007
[edit]- Read through twice and can't find anything to nitpick at. Nice work. Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:15, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Steelkamp (talk) 09:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Ever since I created this page back in 2022, I've been thinking about nominating this list for FL. I've finally got around to doing so now! This is a list of places in Australia's Northern Territory, the least densely-populated part of Australia, making for a very small number of places with a population above 200. This article includes a list of Urban centres and localities, as defined by the ABS, and a list of local government areas, as defined by the Northern Territory. Places listed range from the city of Darwin to small Aboriginal communities with only a few hundred people. I look forward to all comments. Steelkamp (talk) 09:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- The lead seems a bit sparse at just four sentences. Could you incorporate some stuff about how there are only N settlements with over 1000 people, what the largest is, etc?
- I've added some prose to the lead and also before each table. Hope that's good.
- Why do some places have dashes for their 2011 population in the first table? Did they not exist?
- Apart from Minyerri, which I have fixed (the 2011 census used a different spelling), those places did not have a high enough population at the time, or otherwise did not meet the requirements to be a UCL. I checked using the map at [1].
- Could you add some sort of note to that effect? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done.
- Could you add some sort of note to that effect? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Apart from Minyerri, which I have fixed (the 2011 census used a different spelling), those places did not have a high enough population at the time, or otherwise did not meet the requirements to be a UCL. I checked using the map at [1].
- Why do some places in the second table have an asterisk rather than a rank?
- Those places are unincorporated areas, which I don't think should receive a rank since they aren't actually local government areas.
- Could you add some sort of note to that effect? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done.
- Could you add some sort of note to that effect? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Those places are unincorporated areas, which I don't think should receive a rank since they aren't actually local government areas.
- Note a needs a full stop -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done.
Thanks for the comments ChrisTheDude! Steelkamp (talk) 09:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments by RunningTiger123
[edit]- Remove "The tallest building is 100 metres in height." from alt text of Darwin skyline image (irrelevant detail)
- Done.
- "self governing" → "self-governing"
- Done.
- "built up" → "built-up"
- Done.
- No need to say there are 17 local government areas twice in quick succession – remove one mention
- If you keep the second mention, "seventeen" should be "17" for consistency
- Done.
- In the second table, Local government in Australia#Unincorporated areas may be a more useful link for "Unincorporated areas" (the link in the introductory prose is fine)
- Done.
— RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:01, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review RunningTiger123! Steelkamp (talk) 05:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]The most recent census for which data has been released is the 2021 census.
should just be merged into the second sentence, likeIt has a population of 232,605 as of the 2021 Australian census, the most recent for which data has been released, and occupies...
No other comments. Nice work Steelkamp! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done, thanks Gonzo fan2007. Steelkamp (talk) 06:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 15:06, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Hello hello, the name is Wolverine X-eye, a first-timer. I am nominating this for featured list because it meets the criteria. The list is about pangolins, perhaps one of the weirdest creatures out there. They have rough scales around their body, and are the most trafficked animals in the world according to some estimates. And that's all I really have to say about that, so I hope you enjoy it. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 15:06, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Comments by Matthewrb
[edit]Welcome to FLC, Wolverine X-eye!
This is a new one on me, a FLC that hasn't even been patrolled by NPP yet...
- Your lead image needs alt text per MOS:ALT.
- Done
- Is there a reason there isn't a "See Also" section? While not required, it would be useful. WP:SEEALSO
- Does Commons have a category for this family? I found commons:Category:Manidae after a search. If so, could you add {{Commons category-inline}} to a new External Links section at the bottom of the article so readers can view more pictures if they would like? MOS:ELLAYOUT
- Done
- According to Talk:List of manids, this article is classified as a redirect. Is there a reason for that, or should we classify it as list-class?
- It's list-class for me
And finally, this article was blanked and then reverted five minutes later, less than an hour before I started this review. I'm not sure if this violates WP:FL? criteria #6, since it was a one-time thing. ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 20:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Matthewrb: The blanking of this page was just an error in judgment from the NPP rather than anything close to an edit war. And yes, it happened once, so it does not violate the FLC criteria. Besides that, everything else has been addressed. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 04:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good, support ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 04:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article is now at WP:MERGE. That should probably be resolved before it continues at FLC.
- @FLC director and delegates: does this nomination need to be closed? ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 22:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- That discussion seems to have stalled out after this list was changed to pholidotans rather than manids, so I think we can continue here. --PresN 14:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Respectfully PresN, you were part of the merge discussion and have taken a position on that discussion. I would request that another @FLC director and delegates: take a look. WP:FLCR #6 requires stability, and I would argue that an ongoing merge discussion precludes stability. Either someone closes that merge discussion or this should be archived and brought back when things are settled. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pretty torn on this. The article isn't technically unstable unless it's closed as merge from my point of view. There's currently a request for closure, so, I think we may as well just wait it out at this point in time. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey man im josh Not saying this is going to happen, but merge discussions can last for months. I don't see any issues closing this as unsuccessful for now, and then allowing the nominator to renominate when the merge discussion is over. I am sure Matthewrb would be happy to come back and lend their support when it gets renominated. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- File:Image Needed.png should be removed from the article. It is unprofessional looking, unencyclopedic and without precedent. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey man im josh Not saying this is going to happen, but merge discussions can last for months. I don't see any issues closing this as unsuccessful for now, and then allowing the nominator to renominate when the merge discussion is over. I am sure Matthewrb would be happy to come back and lend their support when it gets renominated. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pretty torn on this. The article isn't technically unstable unless it's closed as merge from my point of view. There's currently a request for closure, so, I think we may as well just wait it out at this point in time. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Respectfully PresN, you were part of the merge discussion and have taken a position on that discussion. I would request that another @FLC director and delegates: take a look. WP:FLCR #6 requires stability, and I would argue that an ongoing merge discussion precludes stability. Either someone closes that merge discussion or this should be archived and brought back when things are settled. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
SilverTiger
[edit]At eight extant species, this list meets the minimum entry requirement for FLC. However, I have several major concerns about the overall quality of this article.
- First off, there was a ninth proposed species published on in 2023, this should be discussed briefly in the lede.
- The lede also generally needs a good copy-edit; I may do so after my more major concerns are addressed.
- Most of all: I am concerned that the prehistoric species and taxonomy thereof was copied uncritically from elsewhere on Wikipedia, because those articles are rife with known issues up to an including WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. I suggest going straight to the sources to ensure the proper higher-level taxonomy is being followed.
- Speaking of the prehistoric species, cases like this is exactly why {{Paleospecies table}} was created. I suggest using it.
Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 01:07, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @SilverTiger12: OK, I think I completed everything. Your thoughts? Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 12:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't expect you to reply so soon and I'm on a ship with crappy Wi-Fi. This review may take awhile, especially as I realize the paleospecies template might need tweaking. But I'm impressed with it so far. SilverTiger12 (talk) 00:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): MikeVitale 00:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I have significantly expanded its content to meet the reasons why it was removed from its previous FL status. Its content now at least mirrors (if not improves upon, though that's subjective of course) List of Olympic women's ice hockey players for Canada, an existing FL. --MikeVitale 00:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "however, by 1997, the American team had improved" => "by 1997, however, the American team had improved"
- "and in their head-to-head match up" - pretty sure (unless this is an ENGVAR thing) that "match up" should have a hyphen
- "at the Olympic Winter Games in Pyeongchang, South Korea" - seems weird to link the whole of "the Olympic Winter Games in Pyeongchang" to the article on the games. I would link just the first three words to that article and link the city name to the article on the city (especially as I don't believe it is a well-known city on a global scale)
- I know they are mentioned in the lead but I think a key above the tables for abbreviations like "USHHOF" wouldn't hurt, especially as in that particular example you don't show the abbreviation in the lead
- External links should be below refs, not above them
- That's it from me! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments, ChrisTheDude. I believe that I have addressed all of them! --MikeVitale 01:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Comments by Matthewrb
[edit]- Citation 18 has a CS1 error. More info
- Both the main tables need accessibility fixes - For more info, see MOS:DTAB
- Neither table has caption
- None of the rows have rowspans, and none of the columns have colspans.
- I was going to recommend adding a {{Commons category}} to the External Links section, but there is no ice hockey under commons:Category:Olympic sportspeople from the United States by sport - If you find an appropriate commons category I might recommend adding it.
That's all I've got. ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 04:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help, Matthewrb.
- I have already fixed the CS1 error. Then I started looking into the Commons Category thing. Sure enough, there's no CommonsCat for Ice Hockey players. Can you help me understand the difference between a Wikipedia Category and a Commons Category? Would creating a category on English WP automatically create a similar category on Commons? Are they two completely separate things that would need to be maintained separately? Is the Commons Category linked by Wikidata (which is something else I need to learn more about)?
- I'll look further into the a11y fixes later.
- --MikeVitale 12:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing the CS1 error!
- Wikimedia Commons is a sister project, so creating a category on en.wiki would not transfer to Commons. The goal of having a Commons category would allow our readers to find images of all of the women's ice hockey players from the US, since Commons is a free media repository. I'm not familiar how commons categories link to Wikidata, as I only have really worked on article changes in WD. For more info, here are some links:
- Wikimedia Commons
- WP:COMMONS
- MOS:IWL
- WP:SIS (specifically the section "When to link")
- Wikimedia Commons is a sister project, so creating a category on en.wiki would not transfer to Commons. The goal of having a Commons category would allow our readers to find images of all of the women's ice hockey players from the US, since Commons is a free media repository. I'm not familiar how commons categories link to Wikidata, as I only have really worked on article changes in WD. For more info, here are some links:
- Please feel free to ping me when you're done with the DTAB fixes or if you have more questions about Interwiki links. ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 19:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- MOS:DTAB fixes are now in place.
- I'll start looking into the Category / Commons Category thing. --MikeVitale 01:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Second reply:
- I found commons:Category:Olympic ice hockey players from the United States and added it as a sub-category of commons:Category:Olympic sportspeople from the United States by sport. I then added a {{commons category}} link to the External links section of the List. --MikeVitale 01:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Matthewrb I've added the {{commons category}}, and I've further added all members of the US Olympic teams through the years who already have their own category on commons to the category.
- Is there anything else that needs to be done? --MikeVitale 02:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @MikeVitale: Looks amazing! One final thing: your
scope="row"
on the tables aren't working properly. You need to replace the pipes (|
) with exclamation points (!
) right before the word "scope" - does that make sense? MOS:DTAB has example code if you need.~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 03:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)- @Matthewrb That's an easy fix -- that's already fixed. Thanks. --MikeVitale 03:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well done! Support ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 03:43, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Matthewrb That's an easy fix -- that's already fixed. Thanks. --MikeVitale 03:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @MikeVitale: Looks amazing! One final thing: your
- Please feel free to ping me when you're done with the DTAB fixes or if you have more questions about Interwiki links. ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 19:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]The Canadians again won gold in Sochi at the 2014 Winter Olympics, in a 3–2 overtime win against the US team.
comma isn't needed.- Link "shootout" (Overtime (ice hockey)#Shootout). Also, I don't think shootout should have the hyphen.
National teams are coordinated by USA Hockey and players are chosen by the team's management staff.
recommend moving this to the first paragraph after the second sentence
That's all I got. Nice work MikeVitale. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:58, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review and kind words.
- I have incorporated all of your suggestions into the article. --MikeVitale 01:13, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Of all the lists I have brought to FLC, this was the most challenging from a development perspective. As always, happy to implement any edits or answer any questions. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- MPGuy2824
In the "Most Valuable Player" table:
- "Player of the year award" should have "colgroup" as the scope.
- Images are missing alt text.
I found the same issues in the next section too. Please fix this over the whole page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:32, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824, got them both, thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824, if you have the time for a full review, I would really appreciate. No worries either way! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Adding more comments here:
- Consider linking "playoffs" somewhere. Maybe in the lead.
- There is an unexplained overlap in the "Team awards" section: "NFL champion (1920–35)" and "NFL champion (1934–67)". Please fix.
- "quarterback rating" needs a wikilink or an explanatory note.
George Halas, who played, coached and owned the Chicago Bears
Maybe "played with" or "played in" might work better.- A few of the refs are missing archive links.
I didn't see any other problem with the prose or table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks MPGuy2824, I really appreciate it! All comments addressed. Let me know if there is anything else. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I forgot to mentioned, User:IABot isn't archiving new links right now. All old links are archived and I will update the page when IABot is up and running again. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support. BTW, one can manually add archive links, but I'll trust you on running IABot when it is available. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 16:51, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Drive-by comment
[edit]- I will do a full review at some point, but one point that jumps out is repeated use of "the first Packers' player" / "the only Packers' player" / etc. There should not be an apostrophe there, because "Packers" is being used adjectivally, not possessively. If you used the first part of the team name rather than the second you would not say "he became the first Green Bay's player to do [whatever]".... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- ChrisTheDude, I think I got them all here. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:22, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- ChrisTheDude if you are able to complete a full review, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks for any insight you may have. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, I forgot all about this. Here's my comments......
- "four Super Bowls, which is inclusive of two additional NFL Championships won during the merger of the NFL and American Football League (AFL), since then." - is the qualifier between the commas really needed? It makes the sentence a bit long and hard to unpack.....
- Write out MVP in full on first use in the body as well as the lead
- "In 2014, Rodgers has another season" => "In 2014, Rodgers had another season"
- "The awardee is selected near the end of the game by electronic fan voting" - presumably only since a certain date.....?
- "Holmgren's award came during first season with the Packers" => "Holmgren's award came during his first season with the Packers"
- "after increasing the teams' record from 4–12" => "after increasing the team's record from 4–12"
- In the notes, I think "Rookie of the year awards are only eligible for first-year players" is the wrong way round and should be "Only first-year players are eligible for Rookie of the year awards"
- Also in the notes, odd capitalisation in "SN awards their player of the Year award"
- That's all I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks ChrisTheDude, I have addressed all of your comments here. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 05:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]Comment: Putting this here because I reviewed the list of Packers MVPs and I'd like to review this as well (looks like a much stronger list at a quick glance and I'm already leaning support). Ping me if I haven't gotten back with a full review in a few days. RunningTiger123 (talk) 23:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Full review:
- "9 conference championships" – spell out "nine" per MOS:NUMERAL
- MOS:NUMERAL says
Comparable values near one another should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently
. Since 21 and 36 are written as numbers, 9 should be a number too, right? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- Works for me. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- MOS:NUMERAL says
- "the Packers have recorded the most regular season victories (805) and the most overall victories (842) of any team..." – probably worth putting an "as of" statement here so it won't fall out of date
- I generally don't see the benefit of "As of" nor have I ever seen it required. I generally keep the totals up-to-date throughout the season. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's a good practice (although you're updating it now, things eventually change and it may stop getting updated). But overall neutral on the necessity of it. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I generally don't see the benefit of "As of" nor have I ever seen it required. I generally keep the totals up-to-date throughout the season. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- "The Packers received this award 8 times" – spell out "eight"
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- "The Packers have won four Super Bowls in 1966, 1967, 1996 and 2010." → "The Packers have won four Super Bowls, in 1966, 1967, 1996 and 2010." (don't want to imply they won four Super Bowls in each of those years)
- Added. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- "In addition to his role on offensive" – should be "on offense"
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- "from PFWA, SN in 1995 and 1996" → "from PFWA and SN in 1995 and 1996"
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- "The 1997 award from the AP was unique" – but it wasn't? The sentence specifically says this had happened before.
- Rewrote. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- For player of the year, I don't think a recap of any MVP seasons is needed. For instance, you can just say Hornung won the 1961 player of the year award in the same season he won the MVP award.
- I am not 100% sure what you mean here, but I generally wanted each section to stand on its own. It's unlikely most people will read this whole article from start to finish, rather they will jump to a specific section/award. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- "Favre led the NFL is both passing yards" – should be "is" (but the line should be cut per the above point)
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- "1 interception for a touchdown" – spell out "one"
- Similar to the first comment, since 13.5 is in the sentence first, 1 should be a number, right? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Footnote u ("Only first-year players are eligible...") can be removed as superfluous
- I have had so many people complain (especially at WP:DYK) that I can't assume that people all understand American football, and so I wanted to be clear why I have running totals in all the other tables, but not this one. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Starting with the assistant coach table, the image columns should be set to unsortable
- Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Suggest setting a small column width for Ref. columns (more of an aesthetic matter, but wide columns for references seem off – setting a narrow width will force them to wrap)
- I tried setting the width, but it never got smaller than the longest set of references (i.e. it fixed the width and didn't push the references to the next row). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting, I'm able to set a column width that forces them to wrap. (I tried width=20px on the Coach of the Year table.) I don't think I have any preferences that would cause that... Again, not a necessity. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I tried setting the width, but it never got smaller than the longest set of references (i.e. it fixed the width and didn't push the references to the next row). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- As a general note, since you cite the winners in the tables, I don't think you need to include citations proving they won in the prose. (Any other information should still be referenced, just not the fact that they won and who presented the award.)
- I prefer citing the text as well. Just a personal preference to be clear that everything is appropriately cited. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
— RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:53, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks RunningTiger123, I addressed or responded to all your points above. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Support – left a few follow-up comments above, but nothing that's an issue. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Hey man im josh
[edit]Review based on this version of the article.
Source review: Passed
- Reliable enough for the information being cited
- Consistent date formatting
- Consistent and proper reference formatting
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
- Spot checks on 30 sources match what they are being cited for
Feedback:
- Ref 7 – Should we just do AP News instead of apnews.com and Associated Press?
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 36 – at
|at=sec. 8, p. 13
- Added. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 78 – Missing website entry
- Added. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 79 – Change "The Naples Daily News" to "Naples Daily News"
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Refs 84 and 86 – You use the acronym for Newspaper Enterprise Association in these whereas you use the full name in refs 68 and 77. Use the full name for consistency and because I don't think we should expect people to know the acronym if looking strictly at the sources (I know, it's said in lead, but I believe this is best practices)
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 109 – I might be incorrect, because as much as I try, I do forget some specifics about your referencing style, but don't you typically try to link for news organizations? If so, you'd want to link to WLWT instead
- I typically only link newspapers, or more pecifically when I use {{Cite news}} instead of {{Cite web}}. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Refs 126, 127, and 128 – Consider not using the acronym for United Press International
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 128 – Based on the target article, change the newspaper from The Columbus Telegram to Columbus Telegram
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 158 – You used "NF.info" instead of "NFL.info"
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 166 – Missing author
- Added. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 170 – Not accessible without logging in (unclear to me if it's paid after that)
- Added
|url-access=subscription
. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Added
- Ref 170 – Would we link to The Athletic?
- I generally don't link websites. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ref 172 – You linked to CBS News here but did not in ref 136
- This came from me stealing an existing reference from another article. Changed to CBSNews.com « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I know you have a citation style I'm not always perfect at remembering, but I noticed you link "via Newspapers.com", should you also be linking "via Google News", where applicable?
- Yes, the only ref with Google News is #13, which has the "via.16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)~~
- Coach of the Year section – Main article list should probably be List of NFL Coach of the Year awards
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Same as above for other relevant sections
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- You mention "SN" in the lead as the abbreviation, but I think the abbreviation should be "TSN", based it only having been "Sporting News" from February 2002 to February 2022.
- I don't believe Sporting News has an established abbreviation. Similar to KC 101, this is just one I use to shorten up text, primarily in tables. You don't typical see "The" in abbreviations (think The New York Times and (NYT)). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- If Pro Football Writers of America is the name at the target, and it lists in that article that it's sometimes called Pro Football Writers Association, should we consider replacing that in the text where appropriate? The site also shows a big header with that name instead of the one you used in article.
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comeback Player of the Year table - uses "Comeback Player of the year award" - should probably capitalization "Year" in that, even if you don't want to treat "Award" as part of the proper name, the award itself is capitalized. There's some capitalization stuff that could probably be more consistent.
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @
- MVP table - Probably better to make the column header "MVP awards"
- Changed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:17, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Same for other tables where there's multiple issuers
- Changed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:17, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Main article for the Walter Payton award is titled "Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award", should probably also rename section title for that
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Main article for the Alan Page award is NFLPA Alan Page Community Award
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
That's what I've got for now. Please ping me when replying. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey man im josh, thank you so much for doing such a large source review. I greatly appreciate it. I have responded to or addressed all of your comments above. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: Looks like the only outstanding bit is regarding the abbreviation for The Sporting News. For what it's worth, the abbreviation of "TSN" is used a fair bit in The Sporting News. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey man im josh, I guess what I am saying is in the realm of awards, it appears to be more just "Sporting News". See Sporting News NFL Player of the Year Award and PFR for example. List of NFL Offensive Player of the Year awards already uses "SN". I just don't see The Sporting News in this realm much. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not hard set on it, and I don't think it changes the overall quality of the list to change the acronym, so I won't hold things up based on that. Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey man im josh, I guess what I am saying is in the realm of awards, it appears to be more just "Sporting News". See Sporting News NFL Player of the Year Award and PFR for example. List of NFL Offensive Player of the Year awards already uses "SN". I just don't see The Sporting News in this realm much. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: Looks like the only outstanding bit is regarding the abbreviation for The Sporting News. For what it's worth, the abbreviation of "TSN" is used a fair bit in The Sporting News. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): —JCMLuis 💬 13:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
The 2019 Pacific typhoon season was the costliest season ever recorded, due to several very destructive tropical cyclones that occurred. The most destructive of them all was Typhoon Hagibis, which made landfall over Japan in October and became the most damaging typhoon on record at the time, while also directly killing 118 people. Besides Hagibis, Typhoon Lekima brought havoc over China in August, becoming the second-costliest typhoon in the nation's history at the time, and Typhoon Faxai made landfall over Japan in September, becoming the costliest disaster of the year until Hagibis. In terms of activity, the season was above-average, with 29 named storms forming, of which 17 became typhoons. The season also featured the most powerful typhoon to occur in February, that being Typhoon Wutip.
This is (probably) the first attempt to get a Pacific typhoon season timeline into FL status. While making this timeline, I asked Dylan620 (talk · contribs), who made several Pacific hurricane season timelines that became featured lists, for help with the formatting and alternative texts. I will try my best to respond to any concerns with the timeline. —JCMLuis 💬 13:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support, with the caveat that I have helped out at certain points (as Luis mentions in his nomination statement). I'd argue that Luis's work with this timeline is more impressive than the EPAC and Atlantic timeline FLs I've helped to promote this year – not only because of the sheer quantity of systems (the WPAC is typically the most active of all the world's tropical cyclone basins), but because this timeline thoroughly includes information from not just one, but two major warning agencies. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 01:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment
[edit]The 2019 Pacific typhoon season consisted of the events that occurred in the annual cycle of tropical cyclone formation over the western North Pacific Ocean and the South China Sea.
-->The 2019 Pacific typhoon season was the annual cycle of tropical cyclone formation over the western North Pacific Ocean and the South China Sea, primarily in 2019.
or something similar.- Changed. I'm assuming the "primarily in 2019" part is because of Pabuk forming in 2018.
which wrought damage to Japan
wrought comes across as a little unencyclopedic. "Inflicted" or "caused"?- Changed to inflicted.
Wow, no other comments. Really nice work JCMLuis. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: I have addressed your concerns. —JCMLuis 💬 21:48, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Mattximus (talk) 22:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC) and Alavense (talk)
This list is one more step in our quest to bring up the list of municipalities of Spanish provinces up to the standard seen in the other featured lists of municipalities. Alavense has made considerable changes based on our last nominations which currently has 3 supports. This one should go smoothly as we are always building on previous suggestions, but we are happy to make any recommended changes. Thanks for all your comments in advance! Mattximus (talk) 22:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "The Statute of Autonomy of Castilla–La Mancha also contains provisions concerning the relations between the municipalities and the autonomous government of Castilla–La Mancha" - is this meant to be in here, given that we are not talking about that province......?
- That's it I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- ChrisTheDude: The province of Ciudad Real is part of the autonomous community of Castilla–La Mancha, so those provisions do apply. The autonomous community is the first-level administrative division and the province is the second-level one. Alavense (talk) 14:00, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, it literally says that in the first sentence! Happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:03, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- Many of the refs are missing their archive links. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, MPGuy2824. As stated in previous nominations, it's impossible to archive many of the references, given that they are selections of data from the general set of municipalities. I archived those I could, but the ones which provide population figures cannot be archived, I'm afraid. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 09:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Comments (source review)
[edit]- Please add {{Use dmy dates}} and {{Use British English}}. Recommend {{British English}} for the talk page.
- Done I think I did this correctly
- Image review: all images are free, captioned and used appropriately.
- Source review: Passed
- All references are consistently formatted.
- All references appear reliable for what is being cited.
- Ref 1 appears to be a dead link
- Fixed.
- Ref 2 appears to be a landing page. Please provide more specific locations for the info cited. As an example, Ref 2 is supposed to support
and the 3rd largest by land area, spanning 19,812.81 square kilometres
and yet that info isn't on this page.- I did fix the link to address this specific concern. But for other links and landing pages, I'm not sure if direct links are possible. I will try pinging Alavense to see if they know. Otherwise all your comments have been addressed! Mattximus (talk) 21:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- All other ref spot checks look good. I will note that I am a basic level Spanish speaker and using that and a combination of Google translate, I feel comfortable that the Spanish sources are good.
Nice work Mattximus. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:39, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Mattximus, did you address Ref #2? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Mattximus so it looks like Ref 19 is the only one still going to the landing page. Can you link directly to a list by land area? We typically don't cite pages where the reader has to actually search for the information. As an example, I work a lot on Green Bay Packers articles; I can't cite to Packers.com and then force users to click around to find the information. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- After some searching, it appears that is actually the correct page, but you need to click on download zip file to see all the data. Any ideas how I should cite that? Mattximus (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Mattximus can you copy the download link? You can right click in Chrome and "View page source" and try to find the link to the downloaded data. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I tried the view page source and inspect mode, but I cannot for the life of me find the link. I will have to defer to Alavense as they know the source. Mattximus (talk) 17:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mattximus and Alavense:, any progress? I hate to hold this up on something fairly minor, but as the source review I cannot easily verify the information being cited. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- If alavense cannot reply by tomorrow I'll give it one more shot, or worst case, find a new source. Mattximus (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mattximus and Alavense:, any progress? I hate to hold this up on something fairly minor, but as the source review I cannot easily verify the information being cited. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I tried the view page source and inspect mode, but I cannot for the life of me find the link. I will have to defer to Alavense as they know the source. Mattximus (talk) 17:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Mattximus can you copy the download link? You can right click in Chrome and "View page source" and try to find the link to the downloaded data. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- After some searching, it appears that is actually the correct page, but you need to click on download zip file to see all the data. Any ideas how I should cite that? Mattximus (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I found it! The link is indeed correct, you need to click on "Nomenclátor Geográfico de Municipios y Entidades de Población" and download the zip file, and it is under the fille MUNICIPIOS.cvs, and it is the last number in the first column, with the last two digits being decimals. I have no clue how to cite that, but it is accurate and a reputable source. Mattximus (talk) 15:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:32, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Mattximus so it looks like Ref 19 is the only one still going to the landing page. Can you link directly to a list by land area? We typically don't cite pages where the reader has to actually search for the information. As an example, I work a lot on Green Bay Packers articles; I can't cite to Packers.com and then force users to click around to find the information. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
The Pau Grand Prix is a motor race held on the Circuit de Pau-Ville street circuit in the commune of Pau in southwestern France. Famous names such as Lewis Hamilton, Alberto Ascari, Juan Manuel Fangio, Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart, René Arnoux and Tazio Nuvolari have won this race that has been held to the rules of various racing categories over the years. All comments are welcome EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- "The ACBB was first inspired to hold race" => "The ACBB was first inspired to hold a (or possibly the) race"
- The key looks a bit odd with the bullet before each symbol, I would be tempted to remove the bullets (and replace with a colon for indentation)
- Done this as a table instead EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 18:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- "Star design denotes multiple races were held" - I think simply "Denotes that multiple races were held" is fine. You don't say "dagger denotes..." and "double dagger denotes...." for the other two
- Think that's it! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Edits have been made to the article based on the issues raised above EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 18:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:28, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- While sorting the table, the years when the race wasn't held sometimes comes on top. You'll have to ensure that it sorts at the bottom.
I couldn't find any other problems with table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: I believe I have made the necessary amendments to the table that you raised EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 10:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Since one of the rows has two references, the column header for the last column can be changed to {{Ref.}}. I trust you'll fix this. Support promotion on table accessibility and prose. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]city street track in the centre of Pau, in the Pyrénées-Atlantiques department of southwestern France.
the sentence structure here is weird for me, but maybe that is because I am American and just used to "CITY, STATE". Maybe addinga commune
would achieve what you are trying to say in a little bit clearer way?The ACBB was first inspired to hold the race in 1933 after the success of the Monaco Grand Prix as well as other races in Nice and Nîmes
I believe you need a comma after "Prix"on a podium
seems superfluous and I would recommend deletingfor the longest wait between two victories
change "wait" to "period" or something similar, implies he was just waiting aroundSignature have the most wins of any team with seven
shouldn't it be "has". Its a team, right? So "The Signature Team has".
EnthusiastWorld37, nice work. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:44, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: Have made edits to the list in response to the issues raised above EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 17:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): IanTEB (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
I've been working on Gen Hoshino articles for around a year. Though there are several more topics I've yet to cover, I thought it would be useful to expand upon this discography page for an outline, and have decided to nominate it for FL. Though I've contributed to a few GAs, this is my first experience with the featured content process. I'm sure there’s many issues that I am unaware of and any/all feedback would be appreciated.
I don't know if I'm making this nomination description too long, but a few of the Japanese sources used I believe are new to featured content nominations on enwiki, so I'd like to explain my usage rationales for a few. Active since 2013, Real Sound is (in my experience) an authority source on Japanese music. They have interviews with high-profile artists (including Hoshino) and have several writers I recognize from other sites, some of which also with articles on Japanese Wikipedia. Rockin'On Japan is the website of a print magazine running since 1972. Similar case to Real Sound. I’ve used the online CDJournal on almost all my GAs without issue. They have an editorial team that publishes reviews for CD singles and albums, spanning several years. I see them sort of as the Japanese AllMusic.
I'll try my best to fix any issues brought up. Any comments are appreciated! IanTEB (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- It took me a while to figure it out but when you say "For double A-side singles, the first two columns refers to the A-side tracks, and the third column refers to chart positions, sales, and certifications for the double A-side release", I think what you actually mean is "For double A-side singles, the first two rows refers to the A-side tracks, and the third row refers to chart positions, sales, and certifications for the double A-side release" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you; I've amended the article. Having such a note is from the start a little unusual, but it's the best solution I could come up with since there's instances of one double A-side having three different peaks on a singular chart. IanTEB (talk) 11:24, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- "which decisively opened at first" => "which debuted at number one"
- "on the Billboard Japan Hot Albums and" => "on the Billboard Japan Hot Albums chart and"
- "Sixth place on Billboard Japan's year-end ranking for 2016" => "Placing sixth on Billboard Japan's year-end ranking for 2016"
- Why do you list the full track listings for the two indie releases but not for any of his official albums? I would suggest that the norm is not to show it for any album
- Do his most recent three albums not have Japanese titles?
- Never seen "streaming playlists" in a discography article but I guess in this day and age it's valid........?
- "though it would still peak at number 40 on the chart in December 2016" => "although it still peaked at number 40 on the chart in December 2016" (same for other similar sentences in the footnotes)
- That's all I got, I think...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:13, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: I've fixed the issues with the text and removed the track listing. I based the latter off of Meghan Trainor discography, which includes track listing for independent releases. My reasoning was that these will never have articles, so this would be the only place to include that information, but I've removed it anyways since I agree with your comment. Streaming playlists comes from Taylor Swift albums discography. I wasn't sure if I should include them but thought I might as well. I'd have no issues removing if anyone sees it as an issue. His three most recent albums are titled in English.
- Thank you for the comments. Please let me know if you find any other issues. IanTEB (talk) 17:46, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- I checked the first two tables and the "Title" cell was missing its scope which should be "col".
- In the "As lead artist" table the cell "Peak chart positions" should have "scope=colgroup"
- Please check all the tables for these issues and fix them. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:05, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Thanks for the comments. Since I'm not particularly knowledgable on Wikicode, I don't quite know what this has changed, but I've added the "col" scope to all title cells and the "colgroup" scope to all cells with a colspan parameter. Hopefully this addresses your issues. IanTEB (talk) 16:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Since I'm not particularly knowledgable on Wikicode, I don't quite know what this has changed
My fault, it is for accessibility reasons (for screen readers). I should have linked to PresN's standard comment here. While we are at it, I notice that some of the header cells of rows have scope as "col", when it should be "row" (e.g. "Stranger in Budokan" in Live albums). Do make sure that you check this in all tables. I've found no issues with the prose, so this is all that is remaining to get a support from me. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:55, 24 November 2024 (UTC)- @MPGuy2824: I really appreciate the explanation; I'll definitely apply this whenever I work on tables in the future. I'm unable to find any use of the "col" scope for header cells (including Stranger in Budokan, which is preceded by
! scope="row" |
), unless I'm misunderstanding your comment. IanTEB (talk) 03:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: I really appreciate the explanation; I'll definitely apply this whenever I work on tables in the future. I'm unable to find any use of the "col" scope for header cells (including Stranger in Budokan, which is preceded by
- @MPGuy2824: Thanks for the comments. Since I'm not particularly knowledgable on Wikicode, I don't quite know what this has changed, but I've added the "col" scope to all title cells and the "colgroup" scope to all cells with a colspan parameter. Hopefully this addresses your issues. IanTEB (talk) 16:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Nominations for removal
[edit]This FLRC follows the delisting of Bleach season 1 for many of the same reasons as that list: missing key sections (namely production and reception), poor sourcing (too many primary sources or lower-quality sources such as Amazon), and overall not aligning with present-day expectations for season articles. The original nominator is inactive; please feel free to notify anyone in a better position to help. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delist: The article clearly does not meet the current standards required to qualify as a featured article. The articles of seasons 3–10 and List of Bleach episodes, which are also featured articles, should be delisted as well. Xexerss (talk) 02:18, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that seasons 3–10 should be delisted in their current state, but I'm taking them one by one as I've never seen a bundled nomination. (Since they were promoted individually, they should probably be delisted individually.) RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Remove, perfect example of a season article that doesn't belong at GA, let alone FL or FA. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Notified: WikiProject Maryland, WikiProject U.S. counties, nominator is long-inactive
2007 promotion, fails FLCR 3b with several citation needed tags and an unsourced section. Also fails 5c; flag and seal should not be sortable and the former counties table does not have column and row headers. Talk page concerns went unanswered. charlotte 👸♥ 03:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've fixed the table accessibility issues that you've pointed out.
- Remaining problems:
- Sourcing issues.
- The lead map, and the flags and seal images in the table require alt text. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would recommend in general removing the FIPS code column, which is meaningless to almost everyone and makes the table too wide for most screens. Mattximus (talk) 15:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)